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and good evening everyone welcome to

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arcane radio i'm sean the fort shop

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forker he's launched trickler and butch

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witkowski

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and here we are tonight wednesday july

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the 19th

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2017 for an open mic night our

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lines are open for you to call in

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tonight and talk to us

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about your strange unusual

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or just whatever you want to talk about

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that's what we're here for tonight folks

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so those lines are open gentlemen how

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are you

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just okay lon you can't just be okay

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um i tell you

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i'm like you i've been on the horn all

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day too so i know you get tired of it

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after a while don't you

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i don't know well you know [\h__\h] happened

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man but well what can you do

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can't do anything and you know it's

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great i was going to give our call and

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number and i forgot it

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so i'm going to pull it up right now

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because you know i'm so uh i'm so

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professional i always forget our

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i listen if it was james baker picked my

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phone number out 11 years ago if it

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wasn't for him

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i wouldn't remember that and our phone

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number so you folks can call in the

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night is 570

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that's a 570 478

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0902 and that's now

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in the chat room so call in you don't

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have to be alone tonight

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call us pick up the phone and uh if

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james is listening

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happy belated birthday happy birthday to

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our friend

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my coho my uh cohort in crime i don't

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know how he and i aren't doing joint

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prison sentences

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to my good buddy james baker 11 years

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guys of mayhem

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yeah good old james so what's new

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what's been going on he carries it for

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what's been going on well

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uh since the last time we met there has

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been another report

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in chicago another one and uh

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this one was made by a chicago police

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and uh

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i think it was probably the best report

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that we've received

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and this area was the uh

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an area they called the auburn gresham

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neighborhood

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of chicago this was on west 81st and

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at 11 15 p.m police officer

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and his partner were flagged down by a

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group of people

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who were pointing up to the top of an

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apartment building

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that was on the corner they pulled over

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telling us to look up at the building

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many of the people were very frightened

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and were very excited about seeing what

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seen my partner and i took look

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excuse me my partner and i look and see

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a large creature that was approximately

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six to six and a half foot tall

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this thing was standing on top of the

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building and had what looked like a pair

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very large wings that extended out at

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the you know shine the flashlights up

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to get a better look it took off

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in the air and flew away they thought

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they had a jumper on their hands

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yeah as this creature flew away

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this creature was gone into the night

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neighborhood had seen this thing for the

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uh we stood there stunned as this thing

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of people who flagged us down

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taking information down any information

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thought we'd be made fun of for seeing

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being on as of right now it's been

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business as usual

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um this police officer went to say that

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his son

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talked him into contacting manuel

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because he had seen the reports about

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this thing flying around chicago

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he stated that he knows this thing was

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flushing blood

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he says a christian man and that

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he does he's very strong with his faith

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and he hopes she never sees it again

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well you know we get that paraphrase we

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get that a lot with people

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nobody wants to see these things again

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but uh man that's kind of an intense

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sighting they first they thought they

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get a jumper

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they're like oh my god i wish it was a

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jumper now

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well yeah i mean this thing it freaked

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i'm i'm pretty sure that somebody making

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an inquiry chicago police department

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about getting this report

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but who knows we might be able to get it

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i listened to you on the into the fray

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auxiliary with shannon legrow

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uh we recorded that over the weekend i

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think i listened to it

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was it yesterday i listened to it and

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said she's surprised more people didn't

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describe it like the creeper from

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jeepers creepers

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yeah and i had to say by god that's a

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pretty spot-on

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kind of uh classification from it maybe

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well you know it kind of acts looks like

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the creeper in a way but

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you know nobody described it like that

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the head is so thin

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uh and the body is so thin too

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that i remember that

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we've gotten a sound coming from this

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just hasn't been reported so you know

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have we looked at a pattern have you

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have we come up with a pattern i know

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speaking of a pattern have you been able

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to validate any of that

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you know yeah that she's she took the

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and tried to uh do a a grid

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with you know the chronological order of

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sightings

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and you know it really didn't show much

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of anything i mean

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these sightings all over the city and uh

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it's just you know i i really don't

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see a pattern i don't see any uh

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with the witnesses in the sightings

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the only thing i believe now i know

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there are two of them because

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we did someone did see two of them in

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one sighting

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but i do believe there's at least three

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of them i think there's probably three

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sightings the one in the earlier

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sightings is not around

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now it's something else that's being

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are they associated with each other i

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but uh i i think that the scriptures

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have become more bat like

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as opposed to looking like a moth

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is this thing transitioning somehow well

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that may be possible

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transitioning yeah well metamorphosis

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wow what the hell is it going to

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it's already just good i mean is it is

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transformed into something else it

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uh i don't know i i you know i i

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it's put this way i mean i i am very

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grateful the reports we're getting

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uh for one thing it takes a lot of ass

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to really

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start putting yourself out there and put

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a report out like this

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i mean not a lot of people are cut out

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to do that

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the fact that we've had two reports of

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says something to me that people are

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really seeing something

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now you know the

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somebody i mean shannon asked me at

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night well you know about the media

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contacting me or media reporting on this

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i've only heard of one

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report on tv in the chicago area and

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that's it

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and but quite frankly and i don't i

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don't really want a whole lot of

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media coverage at this point now anyway

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it's not i don't think it's going to

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help us

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because i'm afraid we're going to get a

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lot of crank reports

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so well yeah that's a possibility but we

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run that risk with everything even

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running it on the blog

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you know but

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you know i i believe that

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i don't know i i you know when you talk

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to people when you talk to these people

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or when you see these reports there's

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just something different than somebody

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just coming right out and seeing

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something

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you know off the top of their heads or

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what they heard on a news report

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i mean if somebody came and sent me a a

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report after hearing something on the

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news report they hadn't seen anything

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i i don't think they're gonna be able to

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send me

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a reporter send manuela report that

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that kind of grabs

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the true essence of what this thing is

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when people see it you feel it's missing

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a true narrative and some emotion

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behind it yeah i understand what you're

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so i mean the only thing we can do is

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uh i mean did it take is it gonna take

285
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july off i don't know

286
00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:54,160
maybe it's gonna take july off and come

287
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back sometime i don't know

288
00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:57,519
well probably not i mean at the way it's

289
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going it's got a pattern we'll just like

290
00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:00,880
you said it's a waiting game it really

291
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and i know

292
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you know what my frustration is my

293
00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:05,519
frustration is

294
00:12:10,790 --> 00:12:09,120
where's the evidence right sure

295
00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:10,800
we do have a i'll have to bring this

296
00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:12,959
person we have someone calling him from

297
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the 304

298
00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:18,079
area code but i can't join them to our

299
00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:19,680
call so i'll have to add them to our

300
00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,399
call hold on 304.

301
00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:26,160
304 is that one of our friends that we

302
00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:27,600
know lon

303
00:12:35,829 --> 00:12:35,030
that's west virginia isn't it yeah it is

304
00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:35,839
west virginia

305
00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:37,440
that's probably red that's what i'm

306
00:12:43,750 --> 00:12:39,440
thinking so well we'll have to do it the

307
00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,910
can we add

308
00:13:00,550 --> 00:12:51,509
can we do this you still there with me

309
00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:02,550
okay well we'll keep going here until i

310
00:13:07,350 --> 00:13:04,839
can go ahead and get this number in

311
00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:07,360
there

312
00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:09,600
that's all right i'm not distracted you

313
00:13:13,110 --> 00:13:11,360
guys keep going there so anyhow

314
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like we were saying is the absence of

315
00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,040
some evidence and

316
00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:17,440
i don't know what kind of evidence i

317
00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:19,200
mean we've has there been any at least

318
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photographic evidence lon

319
00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:24,720
no nothing no photographic evidence

320
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uh only sketches

321
00:13:34,069 --> 00:13:32,959
uh it seems to bother a lot of people

322
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and i can understand

323
00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:37,600
that you know people haven't earned

324
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hello hello yeah

325
00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:48,079
i was trying to say hello and um yeah we

326
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,470
how may i help who are you speaking to

327
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,150
this is seven northeast ruby hospital oh

328
00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:05,430
all right well that's not who we wanted

329
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:12,310
oh no that was well okay

330
00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:14,320
sorry ruby hospital that's not what

331
00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:15,600
we're looking for so

332
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if you're calling in try us back another

333
00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:19,519
day

334
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:24,240
all right and somewhere along the line

335
00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:27,440
i screwed up all right so from michael

336
00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:29,120
in the chat room it says it seems to him

337
00:14:32,949 --> 00:14:30,399
that the first few sightings are the

338
00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:32,959
most genuine then it starts to snowball

339
00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:35,040
that makes it tough to weed through

340
00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:36,160
thoughts

341
00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:44,160
taken them all

342
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:45,519
i don't know i don't think that's the

343
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:47,680
case in this

344
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:50,880
i i think the um

345
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i think your early sightings were i

346
00:14:56,710 --> 00:14:54,880
think all the settings were good

347
00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:56,720
i mean of course i've got a few that i

348
00:15:01,110 --> 00:14:58,720
can't verify and i you know was

349
00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:01,120
you know we didn't make mention of them

350
00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:01,920
but those

351
00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:06,000
those that we have received that

352
00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:09,279
offer the most and it's believable to

353
00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:11,040
myself emmanuel

354
00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:12,480
those are the ones that we're going to

355
00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:16,230
those are the ones you feel the most

356
00:15:22,069 --> 00:15:18,240
vetted yeah

357
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:22,079
yeah yeah i mean you know and we spoke

358
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:26,560
i mean he's on the open up

359
00:15:33,030 --> 00:15:29,759
i uh i mean there is at least

360
00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:33,040
one that i received that i'm not

361
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:35,120
i've got on the board but i may take

362
00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:36,480
down because i haven't heard anything

363
00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:37,839
else on it

364
00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:40,959
uh then there's a couple others that i

365
00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:44,480
heard that you know you can tell they

366
00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:44,959
were

367
00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:49,120
not real so i didn't bother with them so

368
00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:59,670
you still there i'm still here i got

369
00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:00,560
this call

370
00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:02,639
i'm gonna try to add to us one more time

371
00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:04,240
this time

372
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,839
it's not gonna be me making the wrong

373
00:16:12,230 --> 00:16:07,600
phone number as i did the last time as i

374
00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:13,749
we just crank called the hospital we

375
00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:15,279
didn't even mean to

376
00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:18,160
sorry folks yep that that's what it was

377
00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:19,519
okay

378
00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:33,430
seven west peggy can i help you no this

379
00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:36,720
is the second time we're getting that

380
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:39,600
oops sorry whoever keeps calling us

381
00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:47,110
maybe a state hospital yeah

382
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:49,680
that makes sense okay that doesn't make

383
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:50,160
sense

384
00:16:53,670 --> 00:16:52,320
there's a lot of things all right well

385
00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:53,680
it doesn't get any better than this but

386
00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:54,800
i have a feeling like we're going to be

387
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,519
getting the

388
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,440
fence hammering on my door here at some

389
00:17:01,350 --> 00:16:59,279
point

390
00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:01,360
do we know anybody working that's in a

391
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:02,959
in a state hospital

392
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,400
i hope not all right

393
00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:08,160
well okay back to what we were talking

394
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:14,230
like i said we've been vetting you know

395
00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:15,760
you've been vetting these cases and

396
00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:16,880
they've been coming through

397
00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:18,319
i'm just concerned we don't have a lot

398
00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:20,000
of evidence yet but

399
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:22,720
you know realistically what kind of

400
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:23,360
evidence

401
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:26,480
are we going to be able to collect

402
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:29,440
well i mean look at point pleasant did

403
00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:30,799
they get any food i mean i

404
00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:32,400
understand that they didn't have cell

405
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:34,799
phones back then but still there were

406
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:37,919
a lot a lot of sightings and all they

407
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,520
ever got was sketches

408
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:41,440
yeah i mean that's fair you know the

409
00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:42,960
whole point pleasant thing is really

410
00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:44,960
based off

411
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:47,280
uh a feeling in eyewitness testimony but

412
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:48,960
no physical evidence it's not like we've

413
00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:50,799
got the chicago phantom going around

414
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:52,960
taking craps on people's cars and we can

415
00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:54,240
go and

416
00:17:58,950 --> 00:17:57,600
get that tested i mean it i don't know

417
00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:58,960
and then you get into the hole you know

418
00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:00,640
because i listened to

419
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:02,240
uh like i said the program that you were

420
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:03,760
on with shin and by the way can we just

421
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:05,280
take a minute and just say how wonderful

422
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:06,400
she is

423
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,240
like the barbara walters

424
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:12,720
of of the paranormal she's she's so

425
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:14,320
great if i tell you what

426
00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:17,679
if i wasn't married and i was what

427
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:18,880
wasn't well me

428
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,000
you know i poor shannon she'd have a

429
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:23,600
a bunch of callers and waiting but she's

430
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:25,200
fantastic she really is

431
00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:28,000
uh and you just sounded so natural on

432
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:29,200
there you sound more natural with her

433
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:37,029
i wasn't i wasn't tired that day i was

434
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:39,120
done the afternoon so i was wide awake

435
00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,720
yeah no check it out check it out folks

436
00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:44,480
it wasn't a good interview it was into

437
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:46,640
the frayradio.com if you listen to the

438
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:47,840
auxiliary

439
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,919
it was the last episode and and lana

440
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:51,440
will pop up there and if you have uh

441
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,280
itunes you should subscribe to it on

442
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:56,000
itunes or stitcher

443
00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:57,520
uh here's a good program i really

444
00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:58,880
enjoyed it lon you've been really making

445
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,080
the circuits though you've been you've

446
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:06,230
yeah i i have been this uh

447
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:10,240
this chicago thing is really

448
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,240
has really grabbed a lot of attention

449
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:14,080
and um what has

450
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:15,840
you know i think everybody's confused

451
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:17,600
about as much as i am be quite honest

452
00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:18,480
with you it's

453
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:21,919
you know i you know of course i've got

454
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:23,280
you know i do get these

455
00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:26,640
uh i do get emails from people that

456
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:28,320
think they've cracked the case for me

457
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,080
but

458
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:31,679
are going to try to tell me how to

459
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,000
interview people and what to look for

460
00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:35,520
and

461
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,360
well you know let me see i don't

462
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,600
think i don't deal with that i i

463
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,000
appreciate the people

464
00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:47,120
that want evidence i want evidence right

465
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:50,080
i you know me guys i'm uh i'm a little

466
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:52,240
bit of a hardliner liner myself

467
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:54,240
as much as anybody else but i'm not

468
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:55,679
going to contrive anything

469
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:59,200
and and you know i i can understand why

470
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:01,039
people are not taking pictures of this

471
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:01,919
thing

472
00:20:06,470 --> 00:20:04,480
i mean there have been people that tried

473
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,480
there's no doubt

474
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,000
my other point i want to make to that

475
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:10,240
quick is that you know you do have

476
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,520
people calling in

477
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:14,320
and submitting these reports that are

478
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,840
their reports they're the ones that

479
00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:17,520
experience this they're the ones who are

480
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:18,840
sharing with us

481
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,000
right i don't feel it's our place

482
00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:24,640
to do an interrogation you know we want

483
00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:27,440
to talk to them question them

484
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,760
that's one thing my job is not to upset

485
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:31,039
them and to embarrass them

486
00:20:33,590 --> 00:20:32,400
you know you put the information out

487
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,600
there and i know you long because i've

488
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,440
known you for a long time now

489
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:37,120
you put the information out there as you

490
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,480
get it and you let the reader make the

491
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:40,400
decision for what they believe

492
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,919
and that's fair that's fair right

493
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:46,240
uh to me that's the most humane way to

494
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:48,000
deal with these folks nobody's out here

495
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,640
to hurt us

496
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:51,039
nobody's i haven't listened to any of

497
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:52,400
these reports or

498
00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:53,679
you know heard you say any of these

499
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:56,400
people are out here to be

500
00:21:01,830 --> 00:20:59,760
naysayers or plants or you know they're

501
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:01,840
you know trying to purposefully hurt the

502
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,880
field

503
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,400
they're everyday people experiencing

504
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:06,000
something strange and i think we have to

505
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,679
be a little sensitive to that

506
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,400
we can't be out there playing good cop

507
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,400
bad cop law and order with people that

508
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,840
are taking their own time

509
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,440
to share with us what they're

510
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:17,440
experiencing for little or no

511
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,559
you know they don't want anything out of

512
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:20,880
this they just want to make their report

513
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,240
well i will tell you this now

514
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:26,240
and i agree with you 100 and that's the

515
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:27,840
way i like doing things because

516
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:29,919
i have had so many people and this is no

517
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:32,240
lie i have had people

518
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:35,200
contact me since this has been going on

519
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,679
wanting

520
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,600
me to take the hard line with these

521
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:39,600
witnesses and i am simply not going to

522
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,760
do that

523
00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:43,440
and i don't want anybody ever thinking

524
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:46,159
that we do that you know

525
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:50,950
you know i mean i'm not a police

526
00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:52,960
interrogator and you know that's not

527
00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:53,679
what i do

528
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,880
and you know i take any everybody at

529
00:22:02,630 --> 00:21:59,520
their word until i found out otherwise

530
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,640
but you know i'm not a complete rube

531
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:04,080
i mean you know i can you know

532
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:05,600
somebody's gonna try to pull one over me

533
00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:06,000
i'm

534
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:08,000
probably gonna see it lon all you have

535
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,440
to do is tell me to take the gloves off

536
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:11,039
and i'll

537
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,120
i'll lenny brisk of them like i've got

538
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,480
no problem

539
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:16,320
interrogating people i've done it a time

540
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:18,000
or two but

541
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:19,679
it's not what we're here for right we're

542
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:22,640
not supposed to hardline we're here to

543
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,760
i just don't feel that that's our

544
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,440
responsibility and if anybody out there

545
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:26,799
is expecting that then

546
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:28,000
unfortunately you're listening to the

547
00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:29,280
wrong program because that's just not

548
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:30,320
what we do

549
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:34,480
now if somebody's blatantly being uh

550
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:38,000
blatantly hoaxing or just being a

551
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,679
jack-off then we're gonna call him on it

552
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,600
and we'll spank them for everybody to

553
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:43,039
see it right

554
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,440
that hasn't happened yet and but be rest

555
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,960
assured today it does you folks will

556
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:48,159
have entertainment like you've never

557
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,909
oh boy okay

558
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,600
but there's a lot of these chicago

559
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:59,039
sightings in this you know we got just

560
00:23:03,990 --> 00:22:59,679
got a

561
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,000
uh a message from manuel offline here

562
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,760
with a great idea which i think we

563
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:07,520
should can't really talk about that but

564
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,590
going back to interviewing games butch

565
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,840
what what butch what do you got for ufos

566
00:23:18,549 --> 00:23:17,360
talk to us a little bit let's switch

567
00:23:21,110 --> 00:23:18,559
gears here a little

568
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:21,120
and put our eyes on first of all here we

569
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:24,080
go butch you're on the hot seat bush um

570
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:27,280
i was talking to stan yesterday

571
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:30,480
stan called him man i meant to ask you

572
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:31,360
and i was

573
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:33,120
i was gonna i told stan i'd ask you

574
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:35,360
tonight i'm glad you brought that up

575
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:38,799
uh sean have you heard anything about

576
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:47,029
no okay

577
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,480
well stan said to me

578
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,240
well he i mean he asked me he said have

579
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,919
you heard anything i said what butch i'm

580
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,080
saying about it i don't hear anything

581
00:24:08,470 --> 00:23:58,159
they said well i'm getting reports of

582
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:09,990
and i have people up there so i would

583
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:11,840
assume that they would know about it

584
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:14,400
yeah i mean i if anybody knew about you

585
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:15,120
know about it

586
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,960
so you know well

587
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:21,200
uh this week is like photographic week

588
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:22,720
for me

589
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:25,760
um i did uh send that

590
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,200
i did send the one into you guys um

591
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:32,080
taking over in ireland a lady was taking

592
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:33,279
photographs of the

593
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:37,279
lush beautiful ireland countryside

594
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,279
and didn't look at her photographs until

595
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:41,039
she got home

596
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,559
and as she was processing her

597
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,080
photographs and pulling them out

598
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,840
of the camera uh her cell phone rather

599
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:49,679
she gets um

600
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:52,559
what i'm going to classify as a humanoid

601
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,200
um

602
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:55,600
i worked on it a few hours trying to

603
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:56,400
take it apart

604
00:25:00,630 --> 00:24:58,400
and it is what it is i sent it to a few

605
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:00,640
other people i also sent to eulon

606
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,559
i couldn't change it it's there whatever

607
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,269
and so

608
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,360
that just goes to show when you do have

609
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:13,440
some kind of evidence you don't always

610
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:16,640
have the um

611
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:19,200
luxury of exactly naming what you're

612
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:21,520
looking at

613
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:25,520
but i've had some people

614
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:28,159
tell me you know it's probably a some

615
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,200
kind of omen

616
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:31,520
or it's a uh definitely it's a gray

617
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,240
alien

618
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:35,600
or if it's a leprechaun or so on and so

619
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:36,720
forth

620
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,440
yeah now i'm like okay well right now

621
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,279
i'm just classifying as an unknown

622
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:42,880
humanoid in the field because

623
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:46,000
that's really all i got i can't distort

624
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:46,240
it

625
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:58,159
and um you know photoshop you can

626
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,840
debunk as quick as they can put that

627
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,240
kind of stuff up but it's there yeah

628
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:03,840
oh you're using photoshop that was my

629
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:06,400
question what are you using to

630
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:10,240
i use uh ce6 okay

631
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:13,279
up and um uh

632
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,200
you know once you start peeling layers

633
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:17,440
away if you're peeling layers away and

634
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:17,919
then

635
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:20,880
and the the object starts to disappear

636
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:21,360
well

637
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:23,120
that's pretty good indication was put in

638
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:27,990
there there's no distortion and

639
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,840
pixelization or anything like that

640
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:31,919
around the object

641
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:36,240
so and no matter what you do with it

642
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,880
it's there don't you wish that

643
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,320
don't you wish the people taking these

644
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:43,840
photos were better photographers to

645
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,919
begin with

646
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,360
like i think that would make our job

647
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,799
easier i think they rely too much on

648
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,200
numerous of these cell phones and the

649
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:54,799
cell phone camera although they're

650
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:58,960
really nice for a selfie or you know uh

651
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,400
taking something close up

652
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,400
they're okay that way but when you're

653
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:06,720
you know shooting us a landscape scene

654
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:08,000
you know i prefer to have one of my

655
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:09,520
nikons in my hand than i

656
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:12,640
would my cell phone you know

657
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:16,400
and um and then you know

658
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,320
the the um inner workings of those

659
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:21,360
cameras

660
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:24,640
everything is so tight that you

661
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:28,320
even distance you lose distance um

662
00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,399
like if there's trees in the background

663
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:31,679
and shot

664
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:33,039
you know those trees are going to be one

665
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:34,159
of two things they're either going to

666
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,120
look like they're right in front of the

667
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,840
camera or they're five miles away

668
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:40,559
they the perspective of the lens just

669
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:42,480
isn't there like it would be on a

670
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,480
dslr and um

671
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:49,679
and then so then i get uh uh well i

672
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,440
guess it was long's picture of uh from

673
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:53,600
delaware of a uh

674
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:57,520
uh a dog man possibility

675
00:28:01,830 --> 00:28:00,000
and laying down some trees and when i

676
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:01,840
ran that through photoshop it's

677
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,559
just a domestic dog it's a probably it

678
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:06,000
more looks like german shepherd than

679
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:07,600
anything

680
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,480
and um and then today right before the

681
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,840
show i got some pictures out of

682
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:13,600
schuylkill county

683
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:17,679
of a uh um a home that's haunted

684
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:20,640
and they had some cameras set up and i i

685
00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:21,279
just

686
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,960
got a glimpse of them i'm gonna get the

687
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:24,960
originals tomorrow

688
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:28,159
uh but i don't got a clue what they are

689
00:28:30,710 --> 00:28:29,440
either

690
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,720
but it's it's something that's

691
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,000
definitely there i mean it doesn't look

692
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:34,080
like it was anything that was um

693
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,760
you know fudged into the foreground of

694
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:38,240
the background

695
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,360
but i got the reason tomorrow

696
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:43,600
well you know if you look at the picture

697
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:45,120
now if you look the full scan

698
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:48,159
full landscape picture and then

699
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,960
you look at the the blow up this thing

700
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,720
has some decent size to it it's not

701
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:54,399
really that small

702
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:57,679
no it's not small at all i mean i don't

703
00:29:02,070 --> 00:28:58,399
have anything

704
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:02,080
to do but it's at least i'd say at least

705
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:05,919
five to six foot oh yeah easy

706
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:09,120
yeah and

707
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:10,720
you know i had it to the point i don't

708
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:12,080
remember what the percentage was i was

709
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,279
working with anymore it might have been

710
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:15,120
seven eight hundred percent

711
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:17,919
i i had at the point where it almost

712
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,120
looked like

713
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:20,799
it was turning around and looking at the

714
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,200
person taking the photograph

715
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:25,360
but then as i went higher it kind of

716
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:26,480
distorted i couldn't

717
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:30,399
i couldn't place that but

718
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:31,919
yeah it's definitely not a [\h__\h] this

719
00:29:35,909 --> 00:29:33,520
is not something small this is no this

720
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,919
is no three foot grey

721
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:38,399
and the arms and legs are very distinct

722
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,120
there is a shadow from it so it's there

723
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:43,039
and that beam of light that goes through

724
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:44,240
the photograph

725
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,720
i'm assuming that is probably sunlight a

726
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:48,240
camera issue

727
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:51,679
yeah i think so too yeah because uh

728
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:54,320
the cell phone cameras are notorious for

729
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,520
picking up

730
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,679
uh any bright light and then you know

731
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,000
the lens itself tries to protect itself

732
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,559
by uh either streaming the light or

733
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:04,000
shutting the light down altogether like

734
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:05,200
if you take a shot at the sun you're

735
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:06,960
just gonna get a black dot

736
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,480
right but um hey it is what it is

737
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:13,200
i mean i don't know what it is but it's

738
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:13,760
there

739
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:20,840
into it

740
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,960
um but i tried to get the location

741
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,200
from the uh submitter and i haven't

742
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:29,120
heard back from them yet so

743
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,320
you know maybe they just don't want to

744
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,840
get involved not they know it's not

745
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:33,919
supposed to be there

746
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:35,360
and it wasn't there when the person took

747
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:42,789
um on the same link where i posted that

748
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:45,840
which was uh the date

749
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:51,120
i posted uh the 15th on saturday

750
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:55,120
i um i had also put a picture or an

751
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:55,600
image

752
00:31:02,830 --> 00:30:59,200
of something opening up or something

753
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:02,840
appearing in the skies of chicago

754
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:05,440
um and the first thing i thought just

755
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:05,760
like

756
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,960
sean told me well maybe there's a a

757
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,080
light coming

758
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,720
reflecting off the window inside the the

759
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:13,919
uh

760
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,760
right it kind of looked like that didn't

761
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,360
it like it was a little

762
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,519
it looked a little too symmetrical yeah

763
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:22,640
look looked like a lampshade

764
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,240
but i went i went and

765
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:28,159
looked at it a little further and i

766
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:30,559
don't think that's what it is

767
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,549
i mean if i knew who the witness was

768
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,159
because this came off move on if i knew

769
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,480
who the witness was

770
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:45,360
uh like i'd make for make sure they took

771
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,990
the hotel room instead of being out on a

772
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:51,519
balcony or anything

773
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:53,279
but um and i don't think it would have

774
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:54,720
been a balcony that high up

775
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,000
the edges in shape just looked too

776
00:32:01,029 --> 00:32:00,320
yeah they do they look oblong and they

777
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,039
look

778
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,120
too lampshade-ish to me that's all like

779
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,720
i and like you said there's not a whole

780
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,720
lot of detail to go off of for it

781
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,399
so that's what i thought when i first

782
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:10,399
seen it but

783
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,399
when i looked at it closer the

784
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,720
surrounding you know when you've seen

785
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:15,440
pictures

786
00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,640
like that where the backlight like a

787
00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:20,240
light or something behind

788
00:32:24,789 --> 00:32:23,120
the glass behind the person that's

789
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:24,799
reflecting in the glass and gets onto

790
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:26,960
the photo

791
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:31,039
you normally do get some ambient light

792
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,760
or some type of shape around it

793
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:34,960
somewhere

794
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,399
and this just doesn't have that and i

795
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:40,399
ran through a whole lot of filters

796
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:43,440
and um you know

797
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:46,880
i don't see anything so i don't know

798
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:51,279
i mean you know i have seen pictures

799
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,840
similar to this in the past where people

800
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:58,000
swore they uh

801
00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,919
something opened up in fact they saw it

802
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:01,440
open up

803
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:04,880
from a smaller type of object

804
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:08,559
or opening to a larger opening now

805
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:10,159
you know you can't tell how large this

806
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,519
is but um

807
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:15,440
yeah i mean it like you say it is what

808
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,039
it is so i don't know what it is

809
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:19,760
but it's interesting uh i got another

810
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:22,320
report today that i haven't gotten up

811
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,880
on the blog i'll brew it i'll do it

812
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,559
tomorrow i just got this evening but it

813
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:27,760
was a

814
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:32,480
person in uh in detroit

815
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,440
with a u.s suiciding several years ago

816
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:40,080
and uh that's a topic we got to get back

817
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,320
into you know usc yeah that's

818
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:45,519
maybe we'll do that next week uh usos

819
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,960
because

820
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:49,120
there have you know there have been a

821
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:52,480
lot of uh

822
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,840
over the years even official sightings

823
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:57,200
over the years

824
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,720
of these ufos that take a dive you know

825
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:03,440
and are come out or even coming out

826
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:06,880
submerged and come out and fly off um

827
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,480
that sounds like a good subject for next

828
00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:10,879
week i mean we haven't got a guess so

829
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:13,599
yeah we can do that and the amount of

830
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,159
u.s

831
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,560
fighting that's increased a lot too yes

832
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,399
it has what's that

833
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,399
the amount of uso sightings has

834
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:25,510
when i i had i had covered a lot of

835
00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:27,359
sightings

836
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:31,200
uh around the uh the lake ontario area

837
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:31,679
and

838
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:35,599
because

839
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:38,399
a lot of people i i know several people

840
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:38,720
in

841
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,720
there for about six months i lived up

842
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:43,679
there

843
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:50,950
those usa uso sags are fairly

844
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:53,280
well i mean they're fairly common up

845
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:54,240
there

846
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:57,200
now i don't know and actually closer

847
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,160
towards the

848
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,880
you know maybe a mile away off the city

849
00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:02,640
you know off the city shore

850
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:04,240
so i don't know i mean but there have

851
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:05,839
been a lot of things over the years up

852
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:06,320
there

853
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,079
settings along the rivers

854
00:35:13,270 --> 00:35:12,400
in the niagara and others that feed in

855
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:13,280
there as well

856
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,000
so i don't know you know

857
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,920
i had to dig all those up i'll dig those

858
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,119
up for next week

859
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,200
i'm sure you'll dig a few up too well

860
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:25,920
look at shag harbor shag harbor's

861
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:29,440
a well-known deciding that was uh

862
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:32,480
so uso yeah we can talk

863
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:38,550
but you know i think the reference she

864
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:39,760
was making was

865
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:43,839
i was i was making uh i made a comment

866
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:45,200
with shannon about

867
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,200
the um and i even posted on the blog

868
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,160
about possible portals opening up in

869
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:53,680
lake michigan

870
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:55,280
and there have been reports over the

871
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:57,520
years people seeing uh

872
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,520
you know green orbs and such and craft

873
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,359
coming out of

874
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:03,280
out of the lake and that what they call

875
00:36:08,069 --> 00:36:05,200
the michigan triangle

876
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:08,079
so i mean is that involved with this who

877
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:08,640
knows

878
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,400
last year at the mothman festival a lady

879
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,640
shared her uso report with me and i'll

880
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,880
see if i can dig that up for next week

881
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,200
she uh it was interesting because i we

882
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:23,040
had just talked about it not too long

883
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,760
ago

884
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:26,560
before i went to point pleasant and it's

885
00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:28,320
not a topic

886
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,960
too familiar with and this lady just

887
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,720
opens up about deciding she had in the

888
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,440
70s that

889
00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:36,000
she was shaped like a big giant wheel

890
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,680
and i'll see if i can dig that up for

891
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:38,560
next week

892
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,160
i think it's a good topic i think we

893
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:42,000
have uh

894
00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:43,119
really talk about some good things with

895
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:44,800
that now i'm excited now i'm thinking

896
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,760
about next week yeah we still have a

897
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:47,599
show going on right now

898
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,240
well you know and another fact of that

899
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:53,359
is i mean those uh

900
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:57,119
those manta ray shaped beings or ufos

901
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,000
that

902
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:01,200
i have been digging into for years now

903
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:05,040
they're always around water um

904
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:07,599
but they're flying at a considerable

905
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:08,079
height

906
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,119
and but there's water nearby uh either a

907
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,160
river or a lake or whatever

908
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:16,160
are they originating from water are they

909
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,280
usos it's hard to tell

910
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,040
so i'll talk about that i'll dig that up

911
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,520
too there's uh

912
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:26,560
there's a well-known navy photo

913
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:29,920
of a uh of a possible uso

914
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:32,560
that was taken well wasn't the navy it

915
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,480
was an actual seaman but he had taken

916
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,960
the picture and

917
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:38,880
it didn't get classified anything he had

918
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:41,440
it and he released it a couple years ago

919
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:44,880
i had to i had to pull that up too

920
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,000
so anyway careful how we chain words

921
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:52,470
releasing pictures of never mind i'm not

922
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,990
okay yeah special victims unit right

923
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,760
here

924
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:04,400
just like not lon butch said midgets i

925
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,119
was almost

926
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,640
i almost caught our website midgets and

927
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:12,470
spin-off uh sorry for all the little

928
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:13,599
listeners out there

929
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:17,280
uh we love you each and every one of you

930
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:20,640
usos next week by god uh

931
00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,160
yeah that's a good subject so anyway

932
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:26,240
getting back to what maybe we were

933
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,280
talking about oh

934
00:38:33,190 --> 00:38:29,920
it was at this point we derailed i i

935
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,200
posted a story today

936
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:36,720
about uh ufo landings

937
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:39,200
at u.s air force base did you read a

938
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,320
butch

939
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,119
yeah they did i saw you post it i

940
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:45,599
haven't read it yet

941
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:49,280
well you're gonna hear it anyway uh

942
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,800
this gentleman sent this into me now he

943
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,480
wanted to keep quiet

944
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,880
he didn't want any part so just going

945
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,079
out as far as name-wise or location-wise

946
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:02,320
but back in her 70s she said my aunt had

947
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,680
sold her house

948
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,680
because she was getting too old to take

949
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:07,119
care of it so she moved into a

950
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:08,480
one-bedroom apartment

951
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,640
about six blocks or so from our house so

952
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:12,400
my wife and i used to take walks in the

953
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,200
evening

954
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,040
after we put her sons to bed about 10

955
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,680
o'clock often to a popular restaurant to

956
00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:19,440
pop their natural chain

957
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,880
so one evening we walked into the

958
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,320
restaurant and found my aunt and a man

959
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:24,160
from her apartments having late

960
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:26,880
evening iced tea and pie nice little it

961
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,720
must be a little town

962
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,359
anyway we we joined them and were served

963
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,760
quickly because the servers knew us

964
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,440
as we were visiting with my aunt and her

965
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:37,599
friend three young men and teenagers

966
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,720
took the booth next to ours i then heard

967
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,000
one of the teens telling

968
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:44,160
a story so i listened having to keep

969
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:46,880
track of two conversations at once

970
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,119
so this was the team's story uh

971
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:53,119
he said that he knew a girl whose dad

972
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:55,040
was stationed at an air force base in

973
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,480
our state

974
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,480
at the time there were two air force

975
00:40:01,990 --> 00:40:00,880
bases and one marine air station in our

976
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,000
state

977
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,800
the teen said he went to see the girl

978
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:06,400
and stay with her family over the

979
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:07,440
weekend

980
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:10,480
he arrived friday evening

981
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:12,160
the family had dinner then he and the

982
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:14,319
girlfriend decided to walk over to the

983
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:15,920
beast movie theater

984
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,720
and to see what was playing he said that

985
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:20,960
they saw the movie and were walking back

986
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,880
to the family's quarters

987
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:24,800
and the company of many air force kids

988
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:28,319
and families who also saw the movie

989
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:30,640
he said that as they were walking air

990
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,319
force air police

991
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,839
and he said he thinks that they hold

992
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,440
them back then they may actually call me

993
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:37,599
aps yet i don't know

994
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,319
ap personnel began driving down the base

995
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:41,680
housing streets

996
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,480
ordering the theater goers to the

997
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,200
nearest base housing residence

998
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:49,280
a siren or tone was wailing from

999
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,319
somewhere

1000
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,160
it seems to me that the order included

1001
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:54,720
some kind of spoken code

1002
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,040
but i had no idea now what it was

1003
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:01,760
uh with no resistance the crowd began

1004
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,240
moving towards the base houses

1005
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:06,240
when the guy his friend and several who

1006
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,680
had been walking near them

1007
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,400
came to the house his girlfriend without

1008
00:41:13,829 --> 00:41:12,319
knocking pushed the door open and they

1009
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,839
all walked in

1010
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:15,599
he said the members of the house were

1011
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,839
about to the business of point when the

1012
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:19,200
grapes closed

1013
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:21,200
he said the guy said that he had the

1014
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,800
impression that this was a regular

1015
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:24,000
occurrence

1016
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:25,680
because the household family was

1017
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,440
pleasant the family invited

1018
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,680
everyone to sit pulling out some folding

1019
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:31,440
chairs and they were

1020
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:34,160
able to accommodate everyone the group

1021
00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:34,640
and

1022
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:37,520
serving something to drink sometime

1023
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,400
about an hour or so later the air police

1024
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,160
again went up and down the streets

1025
00:41:46,829 --> 00:41:43,760
giving the all clear

1026
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,839
and somewhere the same siren or tone was

1027
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,720
sounding

1028
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,040
what the team said was that the girl

1029
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:52,960
told him

1030
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:56,160
that he must not ever tell anyone he

1031
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:57,119
knows

1032
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:01,359
that he had been involved in uh

1033
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,079
and what happened i i gotta reward them

1034
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,079
like most teenagers the boy was telling

1035
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,160
his friends the story

1036
00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:10,240
so the girlfriend said that the incident

1037
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,520
was either a drill

1038
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:13,839
or the real thing she said that the

1039
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:17,200
incident was what happened when ufos

1040
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,480
land on base property are nearby

1041
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:23,440
and that these matters were common on

1042
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,480
various air force bases

1043
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:28,560
because i was with my wife and my aunt's

1044
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,079
friend i could not involve the teen in

1045
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,880
any conversation to ask questions

1046
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:35,040
he said to this day i have no idea where

1047
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,640
the boy is pulling her leg whether his

1048
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,480
girlfriend just made up a story

1049
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,000
or if this is the real air force

1050
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:42,079
phenomenon i have never seen the kid

1051
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:42,880
again

1052
00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:46,079
well the writer

1053
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,800
remain wants to remain anonymous and

1054
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:51,200
wouldn't divulge the location

1055
00:42:54,950 --> 00:42:52,800
but you know in the past i've received

1056
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,960
reports of similar incidents on military

1057
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:56,000
bases

1058
00:43:05,829 --> 00:43:02,319
there i i i looked it up today and

1059
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,839
i i have a list of

1060
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:07,760
seven air force bases in the united

1061
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,520
states stateside

1062
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,319
that have had reports or people had made

1063
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,560
reports or stated something

1064
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:17,760
about ufos landing on base property

1065
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,359
uh uh mino air force base north dakota

1066
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:23,599
monotony here from monotone no i don't

1067
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,000
know um dakota

1068
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,640
why not uh kirkland air force base new

1069
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:29,760
mexico

1070
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:31,920
mcguire air force base in new jersey

1071
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:33,119
which is

1072
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,720
mcguire fort dix now they just joined

1073
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,599
eglin air force base in florida mcdill

1074
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:40,000
air force

1075
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:43,839
california

1076
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,480
and the lackland air force base in texas

1077
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,000
you know i've also received

1078
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:51,359
similar reports of activity

1079
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:54,800
near military other military bases and

1080
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:58,079
of course butch probably knows of other

1081
00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:00,000
sightings too around fort campbell which

1082
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:01,839
is kentucky and tennessee

1083
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:05,280
and also also holloman air force base in

1084
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,319
new mexico

1085
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,319
well home mean yeah homies were they

1086
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,440
supposed to kept the uh

1087
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:12,160
aliens and had the meetings and all that

1088
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:12,720
a lot of stuff

1089
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,240
i never received a port from there but i

1090
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:16,560
am aware of the stuff that happened at

1091
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:17,680
holloman

1092
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,280
and of course there's a well-known

1093
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:21,359
incident that happened back in 78 before

1094
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,839
dixon mcguire so um

1095
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:25,920
these things do happen but i thought it

1096
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,030
so i mean what you think about

1097
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:36,069
oh i think i think a lot more happens

1098
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:37,680
than we're ever going to know

1099
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:40,880
but uh i mean my knot i i think

1100
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,839
minot was probably the best documented

1101
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:45,359
um

1102
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:46,720
yeah they had that's right they did have

1103
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:49,119
an incident in minot that is well known

1104
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,160
yeah

1105
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,760
which is the shutdown of the missile

1106
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:53,280
systems right

1107
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:57,119
uh and it you know

1108
00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,200
my knot has always been to me one of the

1109
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:00,960
best reported cases

1110
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,000
of a craft or crafts over

1111
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,349
and it's never been disputed by the

1112
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:11,200
government

1113
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,270
well this is all new to me i'm not too

1114
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,680
familiar with ufos and air force bases

1115
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:23,280
but

1116
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:31,030
like well no real

1117
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,119
classification or justification by the

1118
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,680
military they don't report on this

1119
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,240
yeah it's just like when you have

1120
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:39,200
bigfoots

1121
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:40,319
just like when they have bigfoot

1122
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880
encounters on base i mean

1123
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:45,200
up in uh what's the name that the base

1124
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:46,160
up in uh

1125
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:49,839
in washington again uh butch

1126
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:53,760
oh um thank you yeah yeah i know

1127
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,359
i can't remember anyone yeah

1128
00:46:01,670 --> 00:46:00,400
there is a there is a and i think it's

1129
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,680
an air force base but i'm not

1130
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,720
quite sure anyway there is a base up in

1131
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:06,400
the state of washington

1132
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:10,800
that has had bigfoot drills for years

1133
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,960
and i've received stories of all kinds

1134
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,480
of weird stuff well

1135
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,200
i've also got reports up in canada too

1136
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:18,880
real quick junior wants to know what

1137
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:21,839
happened in 78 at fort dix

1138
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:25,920
oh god well

1139
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:30,400
let me pull it up here uh

1140
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:34,560
this was january 18 1978

1141
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:38,720
uh cortex mcguire air force base

1142
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:42,079
it was uh the primary witness in the

1143
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,280
case his name was

1144
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:46,800
jeffrey morse and he had been

1145
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:50,640
working as security policing at mcguire

1146
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,280
when he was notified by uf oh activity

1147
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:55,359
over fort dix army base

1148
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:58,640
now morris alleged that he had heard

1149
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,240
that a non-human entity had been shot

1150
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,480
and he later witnessed the dead body of

1151
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:06,960
the entity lying on the ground

1152
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:11,440
in an unused runway on mcguire

1153
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,920
um a primary witness in the case jeffrey

1154
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:18,000
morris alleged that he had been working

1155
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:21,680
as a security police officer at mcguire

1156
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,040
at three o'clock in in the morning

1157
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,079
on january 18 1978 when he

1158
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:30,720
was notified about ufo activity over

1159
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:32,480
fort dix

1160
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,760
and uh you know he had heard about the

1161
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:37,200
non-human entity being

1162
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,800
shot uh he said the scene was

1163
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:43,920
actually cordoned off and the body was

1164
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:47,040
crated and flown to wright patterson

1165
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,200
for examination now he made that that's

1166
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:50,960
the statement he made

1167
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,960
morse himself two days after the

1168
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,400
shooting incident

1169
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,119
was allegedly summoned to wright

1170
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:59,119
patterson and interrogated about the

1171
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,319
event

1172
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:02,640
he was warned to keep quiet and shortly

1173
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:10,230
now this report i think this report came

1174
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:18,710
did leo sprinkle do that report butch

1175
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:21,520
yeah yeah yeah i thought that you got

1176
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:22,160
the init

1177
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,000
who did the report but uh

1178
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:29,040
i know he looked into it

1179
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:34,230
i'm looking for oh yeah here's the

1180
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:36,960
status report

1181
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,760
uh let's see well anyway that's the

1182
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:41,040
story

1183
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,720
now i i've got a link to that

1184
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:49,119
on that on that uh i got a link to the

1185
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:50,319
story on

1186
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,520
the uh on the post i made today so if

1187
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,359
you get the uh

1188
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:57,520
you can get the or go to the blog or get

1189
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,069
but uh i don't know you know

1190
00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,559
maccabee and william hall also were

1191
00:49:11,030 --> 00:49:07,839
investigating it

1192
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:11,040
and bruce mcavee and um william

1193
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:16,640
william hall and uh

1194
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,720
apparently this this morse guy now it's

1195
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,200
not his real name that's a student name

1196
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,839
but he pro wait looks like he got some

1197
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:25,200
um

1198
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,800
he was detained a lot of different

1199
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,960
places

1200
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,800
while this thing was being investigated

1201
00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:32,079
so

1202
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:34,880
i don't know if the the army was trying

1203
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:38,160
to keep him quiet or what the deal was

1204
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,630
yeah i mean you know yeah yeah

1205
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,760
so i i don't know i mean i know filer

1206
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:51,680
did a report as well

1207
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,960
uh he was also he was a major at the

1208
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:56,240
time

1209
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,510
do you know of any do you know of

1210
00:50:05,030 --> 00:50:03,599
anything that filer reported about it

1211
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,040
butch

1212
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,200
no he pretty much reported the original

1213
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:08,559
story

1214
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,319
okay and um i mean there were some other

1215
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:13,839
little things put in there but didn't

1216
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,400
change much of the original incident

1217
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:18,480
and as far as my not concerned if

1218
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:20,800
anybody's interested in that minot case

1219
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,599
there's a the one of the commanders that

1220
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:25,119
was in charge that evening when this all

1221
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,000
took place was

1222
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:28,800
robert salas and he has a book called

1223
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,839
faded giant

1224
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,520
you can get that book and read it you

1225
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:33,520
will be amazed at what happened and how

1226
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,270
yeah my knot has had i have gotten

1227
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:41,599
reports from mine not in the past

1228
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:44,720
uh there seems to be quite a

1229
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:48,079
uh a lot of um ufo activity

1230
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:51,520
from minot north into uh

1231
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:55,200
manitoba and back and forth

1232
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,040
uh because there's been a lot of weird

1233
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:59,520
stuff that has gone on up in manitoba as

1234
00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:00,000
well

1235
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,280
but there's been a lot of there's been a

1236
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:03,760
lot of encounter reports up there

1237
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:07,040
so um yeah it's bizarre i mean

1238
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,640
you know you think minot right in the

1239
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,800
middle of nowhere but then again they

1240
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:12,880
they had nuclear weapons there and for

1241
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:13,920
whatever reason

1242
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:17,359
these these craft

1243
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,920
kind of congregate around these bases

1244
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:21,599
they know where they're at

1245
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:25,119
uh um i heard i got a report

1246
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:28,800
years ago about whitehead as well

1247
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,800
uh but i don't recall it offhand but i

1248
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:32,480
know something about

1249
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,359
them being buzzed at wayhead now of

1250
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:37,280
course whitehead

1251
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:41,119
is the the bomber group well the obama

1252
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:42,640
group my dad used to be with

1253
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:46,319
um and the same bomber group

1254
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,000
that was at uh at roswell as well the

1255
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:51,760
five of the ninth

1256
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,880
and uh but they're the ones that that

1257
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:57,599
were in sacks and the ones that also

1258
00:52:02,230 --> 00:52:00,480
do the bombing runs if uh if a nuclear

1259
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,240
weapon needs to be uh

1260
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:05,599
dropped somewhere over in europe so

1261
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:10,710
well how about we transition from the

1262
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:12,480
dropping of nuclear weapons to the

1263
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:13,280
dropping of

1264
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:18,800
unidentified flying sausage uh

1265
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:21,920
about this 15

1266
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,280
pounds of frozen italian sausage crashes

1267
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,040
on a florida family's roof

1268
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:29,440
family wonders how mystery meat ended up

1269
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,240
there

1270
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:32,880
and this was in deerfield beach florida

1271
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,119
a south florida family is perplexed

1272
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:37,760
after recently waking up to a loud thud

1273
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,000
only to find that the mysterious sound

1274
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,160
was several packages of frozen

1275
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:45,200
italian sausage it was like thunder and

1276
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:46,000
it awakened me

1277
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,400
out of a sleep travis adair told wplg tv

1278
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,920
eder said he and his family were

1279
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,680
awakened saturday morning by a loud thud

1280
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:55,359
on the roof of their deerfield beach

1281
00:52:58,230 --> 00:52:56,000
home

1282
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:58,240
we got up found two packages of sausage

1283
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:59,440
on our side yard

1284
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,520
and then we were like okay well we got

1285
00:53:04,710 --> 00:53:03,040
to go to the roof and check to see if we

1286
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:04,720
find more of this stuff

1287
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,319
and sure enough there were three more

1288
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,400
packages of italian sausage a total of

1289
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,760
15 pounds

1290
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,760
of italian sausage was found in bags

1291
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:13,440
marked william land service a land

1292
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:14,480
clearing company

1293
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,079
in alabama and the homeowners were

1294
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,000
baffled about how the sausage ended up

1295
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:19,760
on their roof

1296
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:22,800
uh and there's still no kind of update

1297
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,680
on how this sausage managed to uh end up

1298
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:27,119
on someone's roof but anytime anybody

1299
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,000
wants to air drop me

1300
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:30,319
meat feel free to do so no really

1301
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:32,160
especially frozen meat i'm telling you

1302
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:32,720
man

1303
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,559
and look 15 pounds is just enough for me

1304
00:53:43,750 --> 00:53:40,559
how about it butch

1305
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:43,760
got it he laughs butch but he wasn't

1306
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:44,800
there for the uh

1307
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:47,760
sausage massacre there at the albertus

1308
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,839
albertus uh shindig you put together i

1309
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:51,200
ate them out of hot dogs those boy

1310
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:52,880
scouts weren't prepared

1311
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,960
they had no idea what to do

1312
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,480
it was horrifying and i even gave them

1313
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:00,800
fair warning they did

1314
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,359
but 15 pounds of sausage just flying out

1315
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:05,200
of nowhere landing on your roof

1316
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:06,880
uh and you know what things like that

1317
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:08,640
happened though right probably

1318
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,839
got taken out of some storm or who knows

1319
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:13,520
what kind of atmospheric follies were

1320
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:14,559
going on and

1321
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,910
that's kind of that's kind of like this

1322
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:22,240
uh phenomena with the fish

1323
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,400
when they got a uh when they got a water

1324
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:26,000
spout or something out in the water and

1325
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,599
start picking fish up and dropping them

1326
00:54:33,190 --> 00:54:29,920
a couple miles away or frogs you know

1327
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,200
over overseas where they get the the uh

1328
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:36,000
rainings of frogs that's some strange

1329
00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:37,440
crab

1330
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,960
yeah pretty weird makes you wonder

1331
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,240
though

1332
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,400
how does this happen but that's the i

1333
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:46,400
saw that article and i had to look at it

1334
00:54:51,190 --> 00:54:46,880
that was

1335
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,549
i'm gonna check my yard tonight before i

1336
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,520
go to bed for any lobster out there

1337
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,280
yeah if you get any brisket or ribeye

1338
00:55:02,789 --> 00:54:58,640
laying out there let me know

1339
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:05,510
uh-oh someone got to someone so michael

1340
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,559
picked out the theme

1341
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:09,599
sausage fort dix semen and airdrop meet

1342
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:19,910
word association folks tonight is meat

1343
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,559
can't

1344
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:22,480
oh my god i'm dying i love our audience

1345
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:23,760
i love our listeners

1346
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:25,119
next week folks we're going to be

1347
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:26,799
talking about unidentified

1348
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:29,680
submergible objects or submerged objects

1349
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:30,160
uh

1350
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,440
pretty sure we'll have some interesting

1351
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:33,359
lake stories i'll go to the archives and

1352
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,079
pull some stuff

1353
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:36,880
up i know lawn will reach down deep into

1354
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:37,520
the vault

1355
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,640
of uh estorica as he goes into the world

1356
00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:42,720
of phantoms and monsters and butch

1357
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:46,079
well butch has got it all so i'm sure

1358
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:48,480
he'll use his ba and bs

1359
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,680
to bring us some good tales

1360
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,359
you guys one thing i wanted i wanted to

1361
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:55,359
mention first do you read that thing

1362
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:56,000
about that

1363
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:57,520
great white that's off the coast of

1364
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:00,160
north carolina 12.5 footer

1365
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,200
it's the size of a camry yeah that's a

1366
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:04,559
that's a big fish

1367
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,520
that shock swallows all sides it's still

1368
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:08,880
damn big

1369
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:12,240
that's any shark is a big shark right

1370
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,920
12.5 feet folks i'm five foot six on a

1371
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,119
good day

1372
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,440
uh that shark is twice the size of me

1373
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:21,920
and probably we weigh the same so

1374
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:25,920
uh but man that's a big ass fish

1375
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,799
and that is a big fish i don't do

1376
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,559
beaches and it's not because every time

1377
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:32,240
i go there someone calls greenpeace and

1378
00:56:37,030 --> 00:56:33,520
there's a rescue

1379
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:37,040
i don't like water

1380
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:40,000
over my head and uh i'm five foot six i

1381
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:41,440
do the math i don't have to go out very

1382
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:42,000
far

1383
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:44,079
and jaws is my favorite movie of all

1384
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,480
time i've seen it so many times i can

1385
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:48,799
quote it chapter line and verse

1386
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:51,920
but those sharks well i was up in

1387
00:56:55,030 --> 00:56:53,760
plymouth massachusetts

1388
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,040
during the period of time they were

1389
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,200
filming that movie

1390
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:59,680
and the guy i was staying with he took

1391
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:00,799
me out on

1392
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,920
hyannis point which is there's a new

1393
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:05,359
there used to be a nuclear plant there

1394
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:06,400
on the point and there

1395
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:09,440
you can look over the uh over the

1396
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:12,319
ridge well as we were looking out in the

1397
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,760
water

1398
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,760
we saw this big shadow coming across

1399
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:17,440
down below

1400
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,520
and i actually thought it was a whale

1401
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:21,119
small whale or right whale or something

1402
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,760
like

1403
00:57:28,549 --> 00:57:23,920
he said oh no that's a great weight that

1404
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:32,069
now there are there there are great ways

1405
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:33,200
up there

1406
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,839
so i mean the fact that the was shot not

1407
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,280
far from there

1408
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,119
i i test there are great weights up

1409
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,760
there show me the way to go home

1410
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:43,599
well i have this thing about if you

1411
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:46,079
enter the water you enter the food chain

1412
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:49,119
yeah really so uh

1413
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:50,799
words to live by which just remember

1414
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,640
that you know vanessa

1415
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,400
i can't talking tom vanessa over the

1416
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:57,040
years i said you want to go to the beach

1417
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,069
you know

1418
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,829
folks check out our friends into

1419
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:09,359
thefrayradio.com uh shannon legrow and

1420
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:10,160
the guys

1421
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:12,640
over there do a great show every week

1422
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:13,440
vance

1423
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:16,480
and jennifer ann at the acrylic ranch

1424
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,319
check that out on facebook the acrylic

1425
00:58:23,030 --> 00:58:19,920
ranch uh

1426
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:23,040
go in the existence of strange things uh

1427
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,720
one of our fellow shows that happens uh

1428
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,799
on friday nights it's a great program to

1429
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,640
listen to from radio memphis you get a

1430
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,160
little fork chop in there each and every

1431
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,480
week a little long strickler

1432
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:36,799
but you butch can be heard oftentimes on

1433
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:38,480
spaced out radio

1434
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:40,640
lots of ways you can hear us and hear

1435
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,079
our friends

1436
00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:44,400
uh and for questions comments concerns

1437
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,720
you can always email us

1438
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,400
arcaneradio.com or arcaneradioshow

1439
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:50,640
gmail.com as always i'm sean

1440
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,240
the fork chop forker he's launched

1441
00:58:56,109 --> 00:58:54,240
strickler that's butch witkowski

1442
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:56,119
you can check out more about them

1443
00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:57,280
phantomsandmonsters.com

1444
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,559
and you4cop.com is that right butch did

1445
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,079
i get it

1446
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:04,720
perfect all right folks another one in

1447
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:06,160
the can next week